3/14/2008

NtJS Mailbag - Mr Credit Card

I got an email today. Congratulations, right? Anyways, it was from a fellow PF blogger - one Mr Credit Card. He was asking me to take part in a survey he is conducting with other PF bloggers on their credit cards. First thought: Have you seen my blog? His email is below.

Mr Credit Card here. I am conducting a survey among personal finance, investment
bloggers about their credit cards and would appreciate if you would participate
in this survey. I would compile the results and publish it in my blog

FYI - I will not reveal your individual answers.

His questions and my answers along with some thoughts below.

What's the harm, right? He wasn't asking for account numbers, and was not asking me to reset my password, so I kept going. I checked out his blog, Ask Mr Credit Card and his corresponding non-blog site. First thought: Wow, so complicated. Now that's not intended to knock Mr CC or his site. I agree with him - the world of credit cards is so incredibly complicated, that consumers do need help 'navigating'. We just differ in how to 'help' consumers. While he has chosen to draw lines between good and bad and calculated the rewards and kick-backs from various card programs, I have chosen to simply say, "No thank you."

While Mr CC so graciously offered to keep my answers confidential, I have chosen to publish them. I chose to do this, not to undermine his efforts or tip his hand, but rather in the spirit of full disclosure.

Mr. CC-

Thanks for including me on your survey. I would be happy
to participate. See answers below in blue.

1. How many credit cards do you have? Zero, zip, zilch, none

2. Which are the credit cards you have (please be specific about the actual cards - eg Amex blue cash or Chase Freedom)? See previous answer.

3. Do you have any credit card debt and if yes, how much? None - We're Debt Free, baby!

4. What is the apr you are paying? N/A - Only a fool would pay for the privilege to spend money.

5. What is your average FICO score? 730-ish, maybe higher. But I really couldn't care less. I only know that much from when we bought our house last year.

6. Have you got any credit cards solely for balance transfer? Nope. Didn't fall for that one either.

7. If yes - which card? N/A

8. Do you charge your utilities, cable bills and internet bills etc to your credit card? No, that would be silly. We pay for our utilities with money.

9. Is your credit card bills set up such that it is automatically paid every month? No, I would never let those blood suckers have access to my accounts.

10. Do you use your credit cards at gas stations and supermarkets? No, I have enough free hats and t-shirts.

11. Which is your favorite credit card? (be specific, not visa or mastercard as an answer pls) My favorites would be all the dozens of cards that we shredded while teaching Financial Peace University. Those are great!

12. Which is your favorite credit card issuer? (banks, not visa or mastercard) None, they are all scum. Do people really have "favorite credit card issuers"??? That's kinda sad.

13. When did you get your first credit card? What was the card? I've never had one, but thanks for asking. My wife, on the other hand, had a Discover Card as her first.
Since then, we've 'Discovered' FREEDOM.

Interesting questions. Sorry, but I doubt that my answers
are what you are looking for, they are however, 100% true.


I hope it didn't come off too snarky, but when you ask these kind of questions.... Seriously, "favorite credit card issuer"?!

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How To: Celebrate Being Debt-Free

What? Hug your spouse. Crack open a cold one. Do I really need a 'how to' on this?

Why not?



First - and this is the hard part - you need to become debt-free. Even if you still have a mortgage, pay off the consumer debt. You can still do a happy dance as you are already ahead of the majority of Americans. We did it and we couldn't be happier. It was almost 2 years ago that we broke free from the slavery of consumer debt, and that it itself was nearly a two-year battle. We fought and struggled and sacrificed. In the end, we had payed off over forty thousand dollars - mostly from two cars and a student loan. Since then, we've gone through steps 3, 4 and 5, and moved on to our 15-yr fixed-rate mortgage. Baby step 6 is technically next - pay off the house early. As a single income home, that may take some time, but not impossible. I say 'technically next' because we are having to revisit 3, 4, and 5.

  • Baby Step 3 [Fully Funded Emergency Fund] - Every time life takes a swipe at us, the emergency fund takes a hit and we have to go back and replenish.
  • Baby Step 4 [Retirement Investing] - We've had some issues getting my wife's old 401k rolled over properly over the past year, but it looks like we have things settled finally. May need an Investment Committee meeting to make sure all of this is set the way we want it now, especially with my wife at home.
  • Baby Step 5 [Kids' College Savings] - As I've mentioned before, we have a new little one, and we need to get her college savings going now.
Kinda frustrating, but hey, that life! Still, Baby step 2 or Baby step 6, you've earned the right to celebrate. Do it in style. Here are some fun ideas:
  • Vacation - You're scraped and sacrificed for how long? Months? Years? Treat yourself and kick back for a week. 7-day cruise, all-inclusive resort, la-z-boy and a stack of movies? Find what fits your liking and your budget - just because we're out of debt doesn't mean we trash the budget. Have fun, reap the rewards, and pay for it in cash! But really, vacation? Kind of a no-brainer.
  • Spend a car payment - on you! Or you and your spouse. What were you paying out each and every month for a car or two? $200? $300? $500? The average car payment in North America is $376 over far too many months. So now that you aren't shelling that payment out anymore, that money becomes disposable. Ok, so you may want to 'dispose' that money into a Roth IRA. But before you do, why not enjoy one of those payments? How nice of an evening can you have on $350? Pretty darn nice. There is room in there for a sitter, a show, and a really nice dinner. Maybe you'd rather have a Wii. How would you spend a car payment on you?
  • Credit card shredding party - How about this for an invitation:
    We've freed ourselves from the bondage of debt. Join us for an evening of friends, fun and shredding our credit cards! Thats right, they're going down. Ready to take the plunge too? Bring yours and we'll explain.
    A great way to celebrate with friends and do a little evangelizing at the same time.
  • Be weird - Dave fans know that this is a good thing. Sometimes it's fun to show your weirdness. The point isn't to be showy, but to remind your self of your accomplishment and inform others. Think of it as 'outreach'. Shegazelle has dreams of a customized license plate - NO PYMNT. That would look great on my 8 year old truck! You have to wonder what one of those guys driving a $45,000 brand new pickup truck thinks about a plate like that. J.D. over at Get Rich Slowly plans to quit his day job and blog full-time. Everyday when he rolls out of bed and 'goes to work' in his PJs (or whatever he does in the morning), he'll remember how he afforded himself that luxury - Debt Freedom. Weird!
  • Call in on 'Debt-Free Friday' - Another one for Dave Ramsey fans. If you are unfamiliar, every Friday on the Dave Ramsey show (radio and TV), listeners/viewers are invited to call into the show, tell their story, and scream, "I'M DEBT FREEEEEEE!". Maybe it sounds silly, but maybe you haven't been in their position. Some folks go a step further like Ana from Debt Free Revolution, who plans to drive to Financial Peace Plaza, watch the radio show from the lobby and call in from Dave's own lobby! Looks like they also have quite the evening planed as well. Congrats again, Ana! I'll be sure to listen that day.
  • Mortgage burning party - The holy grail. You did it. You paid off the house and now you want to celebrate in a way just as nutty as the accomplishment. Mortgage. Burning. Party. Fire up that BBQ grill - we're having steak tonight. And afterwards, the mortgage goes on the grill. Now I don't recommend you burn your actual mortgage. That may come in handy down the road, and with something this important, it's best to have all of the proper documentation. But with a little magic from Kinkos, you can produce a reasonable facsimile there of that will easily accommodate said 'mortgage' burning. Now that's fun, and a great opportunity for your friends/family/neighbors to ask, "Hey, how'd you do that?". As well as a great opportunity for you to help guide them in the right direction. Max from maxgrace.com even has some videos for inspiration.
Anyone have debt-freedom plans to share? How would you like to celebrate your release from servitude?

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3/12/2008

The Buck Stops Here

Frugality is always a hot topic around the personal finance blogosphere. "87 Frugal Finance Tips", "Frugal Meals for Frugal Folks", "I'm More Frugal Than You, Na-Na Na-Boo-Boo". (yes, those are fictitious articles) And thats great - Don't get me wrong. I enjoy frugality as much as the next PF blogger. But where does frugality end and reality begin? Frugality can easily cross the line into cheap if not kept in check with quality and value. Where do you draw the line in your frugality?


Seeds of frugality are often planted during childhood by watching what Mom and Dad are doing. Refusing to use the A/C or furnace before crossing a date or temperature threshold. Ordering a meal, but drinking the free water instead of spending a money on beer or pop. Once you hit college age and get out of the house, it's your first real opportunity to 'experiment' with frugality. You stumble across things like cheap cheese. "I'll save 80 cents and buy the generic cheese," you think, "Mom would be proud". Except Mom knew better. That 80 cent savings was really $1.10 down the drain since the "cheese" tasted more like corn, and not in a good way. After my "corn-cheese" experience, I learned that a line in the sand must be drawn. Generic was not inherently bad, but required discretion.

  • Food - We buy a lot of generic/store brand food. These seem to be better than they used to be, and are offering a lot more variety. Some stores even offer store brand organics, but we still look for USDA certification. Some things we won't compromise on: Meats, ice cream, cheese, pop, and OJ. For those items we have found our threshold to be above average.
  • Technology - I don't buy into the 'planned obsolescence', 'disposable' technology crap. In my opinion, sub-par electronics just aren't worth the headaches, and constant "why won't it work". Usually, if we're spending more than $20 on some electronic bits, then we're going to get something that we'll be happy with. Some times when I will buy the cheap tech stuff: cables, cables, cables.
  • Education - Once we relocated last year, we had a few choices for education. We could be like many people and send our kids to the public school that we were funding via local taxes. Not a bad option financially speaking, but that school system leaves a lot to be desired. We could pay for them to go to our parish's parochial school. Not cheap by any means, but an excellent education. Or we could go ultra frugal and home-school. We have nothing against home-schooling. We have several good friends who do it. But it's a bit of a stretch for us. Where did we end up? Parochial.
So there's three examples. Where do you draw the line? What trade off's will you make / not make in the name of frugality?

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3/09/2008

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3/06/2008

I Declare

Too funny to resist. Michael's concept of money is hilarious. I've seen this episode twice, but it wasn't until I watched this clip that I realized he is cutting up his credit cards when Oscar comes in. Even a broken clock is right at least two times a day.

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3/05/2008

We're Trying Something New

Please bare with us.I'm putting my l33t haxoring skills to the test and attempting to clean up the blog a bit. These long winded posts were getting a bit out of hand and cluttering up the page.
Did this work?

I'm not sure if I like it yet. What do you think?

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The HDTV Challenge - Update 1

It's been a while since I posted an update on this project. Sadly, there is little progress to report.

We are still committed to sticking to our plan. The waiting is the hardest part, but patience is a virtue and learning to delay pleasure is one sign of maturity. In the meantime, prices are continuing to fall, and technology is continuing to improve. No worries here. When the time is right, it will all come together.

We are a few dollars closer than we were in January, though nothing significant. The secondary market moves like molasses here during the winter months. We have been toying with the idea of 'Basement Sale' as it is far to cold for a garage sale. We'll let you know if that materializes, and how we come out. It's definitely one of my wife's better ideas, we just have to find the time to put it together and sort out enough stuff to justify it.

The biggest news is really the fact that we are waiting, despite two separate influxes of cash that would have easily put us over the top.

  • First was Christmas. We had told our parents about our grand plan and one of them decided to help us out a bit. They had hinted at it a bit before hand, so we knew they were up to something. When my wife opened the Christmas card and saw the check, she indicated how helpful that would be with all of our upcoming doctor bills. She was 8-1/2 months pregnant at the time, and knew that based on our insurance, we would have a few thousand in medical bills in the coming months. The parents were a bit let down, but that's looking to be a better and better decision all the time. And you just don't argue with a woman when she's that pregnant.
  • Second was our tax refund. With the crazy year we had in 2007 - moving, new job, one income instead of two - we ended up with a sizable refund. On the way home from the CPA, it was easy to contemplate how to divvy the spoils. Later, reality hit. With baby in hand, we are still looking down the barrel of some sizable medical bills on the horizon. It may come out to be much less than expected, but we'd rather have the money in the bank, than hanging on the wall in the living room. In the meantime, we're adjusting my W4 so that we don't have this dilemma next year.
  • Last is the potential income of the 'economic stimulus' package. We should be seeing ~$1500 from Uncle Sam come this May. I say potential and should because, well, I don't exactly have the check in hand yet. And we really don't want to count on money we don't have. We've filed our taxes, which is the only thing eligible families and individuals need to do to get in line for their government hand out. More waiting in store for us.

Who knows? Maybe, come May, our outlook will be more positive. All of this money we haven't spent on consumer electronic goodness could total over $3,000. Will we finally spend it on a TV? Nah. More than likely it will go to a new well and other slightly more necessary home improvement projects. Come May, I would hope to have several more items sold and have gained the TV money the old fashioned way - patiently earning it.

Maybe not the exciting, celebratory update you were hoping for. But this is the way it is.

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How To: Get a Deal - Episode 1

ASK!


I'll elaborate, but the short of it is - it works, baby.

We were all geared up to purchase and install a mountain of insulation into our attic. We had done the research, we knew what we wanted and how we were going to do it. We even had some help lined up for two weekends out to help with the install. Now we just had to buy the stuff.

Based on our research, we chose to go with blown-in cellulose insulation. Environmentally friendly, cost effective, and easy to install. Question was, how much is the blower going to cost to rent? We had budgeted $700 from our house repair fund for this project, but by no means wanted to spend all of it. That weekend, along with the Sunday paper, comes a Menard's sale flier. The type insulation we wanted, Cocoon branded, was marked down to $5.40 per bag + a free blower rental. I called to inquire. Turns out that the blower rental was free for four hours. Standard charges applied after that. Ug. I had no idea how long this was going to take, but 4 hours seemed pretty optimistic for a bunch of amatures.

On top of that, I was estimating needing around 80 bags of this insulation to get the desired R-value. That was going to cost $432. Not bad. What killed the deal was the fact that the nearest Menard's was 20 miles away. How many trips would it take to get all of the insulation and the blower home, plus the trip to return the blower? Ug Ug.

Fire up the computer, its time to comparison shop. We have a Lowe's and a Home Depot in town, one of these guys should be competitive, right? Lowe's had the exact same product online, but for $6.24 per bag. Home Depot's website was, as usual, little to no help as they typically only list items they are willing to ship to you. But they have to stock insulation, right? Time to hit the bricks and get us a DEAL.

Lowes' price of $6.24 was going to equate to just under $500 + whatever the blower rental would be. I strolled down to the building materials and found the insulation. They cellulose, but it was a different brand, yet the same price. Still it was worth asking. I made my way to the service desk. They examined the Menard's flier and paged a stocker to price check the insulation. While we were awaiting his response, she informed me that the two items would have to be exactly the same - make, model, and size - to be eligible for price matching. The stocker's answer came back. No deal. Different brand. Same size, same product, different brand. I pressed that they had this brand on their website, and could they give me the discount if I ordered online. The answer was a flat, "No." Clearly they did not need my business that day.

I made the half-mile trek to Home Depot. Would my luck be different here? Once again, I made a bee-line to the building materials. There, past the roofing materials and behind the lumber was a big beautiful pile of Cocoon brand cellulose insulation. I double check my sales flier. A perfect match! Price: $6.44 - even more than Lowe's! Off to the service desk.

Now, you should know that doing this is not easy for me. I tend to be quiet, more reserved. I'm not a big 'wheeler dealer' and in general, I would just assume not interact with people in general. But I was going to do this. That day, I was going to get a deal. Somebody was going to earn my business.

At the service desk I, once again, made my request. "I was wanting to buy some of this insulation, but I saw that Menard's had it cheaper, can you help me with that?" She examined the flier, and responded, "You mean our 'Meet or Beat' price guarantee?". I had never heard of this program, but responded affirmatively. She went to an office in the back, assumingly checking with her supervisor. She came back.... $4.14 per bag. DEAL!

I was a little bit beside myself as we started placing the order for will call. Then I remembered the other part of the equation - the blower. "One other thing here. This ad says that you get a free blower rental with purchase. Can you match that also?" She paused, her face wrinkled as it seemed that this did not compute. She consulted with the same superviser, who was walking by us, which was met with another puzzled look. Was this somehow unheard of? Sure we'll price match products, but equipment rental prices? Thats crazy! It was a tense few seconds. The lady helping me then replied, "I don't know how we can match this, since it's already free for 24 hours."

....pause....

I wanted to burst out laughing! Yes! Yes! Where do I sign?! Let me out of here with my receipt before you change your minds! I maintained my composure and let them know that would work just fine. A few minutes more and the deal was done. In the end, it took 3 trips to haul it all home, but only because two loads consisted of tall palates. Those were two s-l-o-w trips that would have been crazy to attempt for 20 miles. The whole project cost us $310 and a full day of labor. While unloading the bundles of insulation, I saw where some of them had price tags on them reading $7.24. Seven dollars and twenty-four cents EACH! This made the next 8 hours of back-breaking labor somehow tollerable. Maybe it was because it looked like insulation shooting out the end of that hose, and not dollar bills.

Why did I do this? Why did I insist on getting a deal? It wasn't a matter of not having the money. As I stated, we were setting $700 aside for this one - more than double what it cost in the end. It's a matter of not wanting to part with all of it just because some retailer decided that this week, this product will cost X amount. Why spend money that you don't have to? Why play their game and pay their price without question? A fool and his money are soon parted, and that is one role I am not willing to fill.

So if you want a deal, if you want to spend a little less on a purchase - ASK! Ask if the pizza place will accept competitor's coupons. Ask if they can do a little better on the price of that TV you've been pining over. What are they going to do? Say, "No"?

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3/04/2008

A Personal Finance Publishing Hat Trick

This week we have a publishing trifecta - three articles on three different carnivals/festivals in one week. A real accomplishment, or just showing where my free time went last week? You be the judge.

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3/03/2008

Have We Learned Nothing?

I know that we are weird. We watch the news, and not just for the weather and sports. We have no credit cards, no debt other than the house. We rarely eat fast food. By American standards, we are weird. We know it, and we're ok with it. So help us with this one, because the wife and I are really having trouble with this. Have people heard about this 'mortgage meltdown' thing? Are people aware of the 'credit crunch' and what caused all of this mess? Have we seen the mistakes of others played out in the national media and learned from it? We've watched this coming for years.

The foolishness of home builders - overbuilding, over-inflating prices, then suckering people in with ARM mortgages. The foolishness of home buyers - putting nothing down and thinking that it was a good thing. The severe debt of the middle class - growing and growing year after year, spending more and more with little to no savings. The banks and lenders throwing all intelligence out the window and creating this sub-prime mess. People bought it hook, line, and sinker. And now they are sunk. Foreclosures are through the roof. Bankruptcies higher than during the Great Depression; completely undaunted by the new bankruptcy laws. As this was gathering steam a few years ago, we discovered Dave Ramsey.

My wife got us started on Dave's plan, got me on-board, and kept us on track. Together, we got our lives in order and our finances under control. Eventually we got out of debt. But even more important than that, we stopped doing 'dumb with money'. We opened our eyes to all of the dumb ways we mishandle our money in this society. We questioned financial products and services rather than signing up after a slick sales pitch. Thus, the current 'credit crunch' has not affected us. But we are aware of it. We thank God that we did what we did, when we did it. And we know that could have easily been us in that mess.

So, it absolutely baffles us that anyone, anywhere in this country would be doing what I am about to describe. Some friends are buying a house. Ok, good for them. My wife is talking to our friend on what happens to be the day before the closing. If you've bought before, then you know, at this point in the game, that you are committed - you're buying the house, for all it's qualities and in spite of its defects. You know what you are getting, and you probably have some plans for it. Well, they have plans alright - spend spend spend spend spend.

Our friend starts talking about how the house has wallpaper on every wall, which is coming down and giving way to paint. Pricey and time consuming, but not a bad move. The carpet is coming out, though nothing is technically wrong with it, and will be replaced and perpetuated into the basement as well. I haven't seen this carpet, but seems like something I'd have cleaned and tough it out for a bit. Moving on, our friend describes how all of the furniture in they are using now will go in the basement along with their current TV. Nothing wrong with any of it, but new house = new stuff. The furniture has been bought, and there is one of those fancy flat-screen TVs that they have their eye on. I'm not sure how she kept it together, but my jaw would have been on the ground. The real kicker came when our friend made reference to the fact that putting nothing down on the house would help enable them to do all of this. My wife was polite enough to not press for more details, but it's not tough to imagine:
  • New Furniture - no payments, no interest till whenever
  • New Carpet - on payments
  • New TV - no interest if you use your 'Whatever' card
  • New Paint - on credit card
  • Mortgage - ARM
Now that list is ALL speculation, but totally fits the rest of the behavior. We sincerely hope and pray that this is not the case, but we're not holding our breath. Maybe (and I certainly hope this is not the case) you don't see the issue here. It's very likely that during this year, these first-time home owners will get their clock cleaned by unexpected or unplanned expenses. Home inspections are a must, and they had one done. But what about all those things that inspectors do not inspect? A/C units. Water softeners. Mold problems. Or those little needs that come up. Appliances, a lawn mower. Are they aware of the increased living expenses in utilities, insurance, and taxes alone?

People argue that credit cards are "great for emergencies". Really? So besides the stress and financial hit, you're going to add debt to the list? So once they've maxed the cards out on everything they bought but didn't need to and items they didn't plan for, what happens when the the furnace goes stinko and the roof starts leaking right after the property tax bill comes in? Where's your precious plastic card then? I know what happens, as no sales pitch is complete today without mention of their financing plan.

Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of people who are able to avoid debt in spite of frequent credit card use. They are usually the ones who just can't understand how someone racks up tens of thousands of dollars in debt. This is how - or at least one way. A couple wrong turns, no plan, and living emergency to emergency, debt payment to debt payment.

This country has lived and died on debt for decades. No-one looking at this situation from a 1000-ft view (like we are) would sign up for this. But debt in small chunks is easier to justify. Another example of this same behavior can be seen in a childhood obesity TV commercial (can't seem to find right now!). It shows a time-lapse of a family's day, focusing on a young boy and the food his parents put in front of him. "It's just a donut", it starts. "It's just a donut and some pop. It's just a donut, some pop and some chips." The commercial ends with the father bring home fast food for the family. And we wonder why our kids are fat and developing diabetes. Translate that junk food into debt.
It's just a car loan. Its just a car loan and some credit card debt. Its just a car loan, credit card debt, a home equity loan, some medical debt, and my financed furniture. Oh! And my old student loan - almost forgot about that.
That is a recipe for massive debt. If we all don't take something away from this mortgage meltdown mess, then who is to say that this won't happen again?

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